Dropline GNOME

by **wwwyzzerdd** on Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:35 am

hey, hope i'm not doing redundant work (haven't been following the forums lately, dunno if any work has been done on aiglx, xgl, compiz, or beryl), but i got sick of using the "pinki" xorg packages as recommended by http://web.tiscali.it/meskalamdug/aiglx-en.html as the dropshadows don't work, and I can't understand the language the build script is written in.

so, long story short, i have xorg 7.1.1 and beryl 0.1.4 compiled and working on slackware 11/dlg 2.16.2 (the build scripts were originally written by jong375 on http://www.linuxquestions.org - check this post (I'm aeknor if you're wondering) - http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2574921. i modified the scripts a bit to be more slackware-ish (use /usr/X11R7 instead of /usr for Xorg), and I changed mesa a bit).

i don't have much in the way of info for installing the packages yet, so for the time being, follow the README2 instructions in the source/xorg-7.1.1-www.tar.bz2 (and instead of compiling xorg, install the xorg packages).

the source and packages are here:

http://thoughtbit.com/xorg-build/

and a screenshot:

http://thoughtbit.com/xorg-build/slackware-aiglx-beryl.png

the xorg packages work on my laptop (latitude d620 with nvidia quadro nvs 110m) and in vmware (with the vesa and vmware drivers) - haven't tested on ati (but I don't think aiglx works with ati yet, does it?)

if anyone tries the packages or build scripts, let me know how it goes!

by **byteframe** on Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:16 am

I've yet to try out any of the XGL, AIGLX effects, and I'm not really up on the whats-what, and the whos-who with compiz/beryl/metacity/compositing/xgl/aiglx/etc.

I'd very much like to test out all of this, espeically on my main slack/dl system, I'll have to get back to you on that later, as the machine is back at my dorm, and I'm still home from school for like another week and a half.

However I run a 7900GT and the latest 9xxx driver. I'll check them out for you when I get a chance.

PS. Easy to uninstall? Leave anything left over after the uninstall? Any (un)install tips so as not to fuck up my machine?

by **wwwyzzerdd** on Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:39 am

I just put together a guide to installing my xorg and beryl packages:

http://wiki.thoughtbit.com/linux:slackpkg:xorg-7.1

Quick run down:

freetype and fontconfig install to /usr
the rest of the xorg packages install to /usr/X11R7
the beryl and emerald packages install to /usr

You should be running a 2.6 kernel, and if you plan on using beryl, make sure you have supported hardware and drivers!

The wiki is not currently open to the public, so let me know here if there's anything confusing or wrong, or if you have ideas or comments!

by **Marcus** on Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:15 pm

Hi.

Which theme are you using on the screenshot. It really looks nice.

Best Regards
Marcus

by **ertz** on Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:26 am

well, I did what your guide says but I didn't get the window decorations, but I have all the animations... :?:

... they are enabled in beryl-settings.... any ideas?

by **ertz** on Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:33 am

never mind... after a quick reboot it all went smooth

thanks!

oh, and btw, the only thing that seems odd is the naming for x11 packages... i can't do an upgradepkg with your naming scheme.

by **wwwyzzerdd** on Sun Jan 21, 2007 6:25 pm

1. Here's my theme:

http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=46153

2. Package Names:

Yeah, you can't just upgrade package because the build scripts are setup much differently than slackware's originals due to the fact that xorg-7.1 is modular, but xorg-6.9 is not. It would obviously be POSSIBLE to work them out with the same names, but I haven't yet (nor has the person who originally created the scripts)... (not sure if I plan to either).

Glad to hear you got things working though!

by **Paul Best** on Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:07 am

The old X11R7 scripts that Diffie and myself worked on a few months ago used the same file names as slackwares own. Also, I should mention that I'm still planning on building 7.2 whenever its released. It was supposed to be released several weeks ago and it still hasn't been, and I don't want to update the build scripts at this point because I'm certain that as soon as I do so 7.2 will be released.

My only real fear is that it will come out near simultaneously with Gnome 2.18.0 which will throw a bit of a wrench into my plans. Even if I do get around to building X11R7.2 don't expect to see it, compiz or beryl in the mainline of dropline. Now that we've removed X11 from the default distribution its unlikely that we'll add it back in unless something in 6.9 causes problems for us.

by **ertz** on Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:09 am

just stopping by to say that beryl 1.99.2 has been released... i hope you've got some time to build it :roll:

hehe

by **wwwyzzerdd** on Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:18 am

hehe, thanks for the prod - I think I noticed that yesterday while at work. I'll see what I can do

by **ertz** on Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:11 am

great news!! I'm looking forward to those packages!!

and thanks for your hard work, this really brings some fun to the desktop, heh.

by **wwwyzzerdd** on Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:09 am

Glad to see you like the packages! Really, most thanks should go to jong357 on the linuxquestions forums - I just adjusted his scripts a bit and built beryl!

I just noticed an error in my packages actually: I've mis-linked some files that live in /usr/X11R7/share/aclocal/

To fix it, do the following:

Code: Select all: root@bit:/usr/share/aclocal# for i in `ls /usr/X11R7/share/aclocal/`;do rm $i;done root@bit:/usr/share/aclocal# for i in `ls /usr/X11R7/share/aclocal/`;do ln -s /usr/X11R7/share/aclocal/$i .;done

I'll fix this in my next xorg build! Hopefully I'll get those beryl packages built tonight...

by **wwwyzzerdd** on Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:58 am

by **ertz** on Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:07 am

I've been using it for a while now and it works like a charm

thanks!

by **byteframe** on Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:26 pm

It looks like the BCI is compiled into your freetype2 package.

Is this true?[/u][/i]

also after installing beryl, I dont know what to do next?
I rebooted, and I can run the 'beryl' command, but I dont get managed windows.

by **ertz** on Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:41 pm

I use 'beryl-manager' to run the WM... but usually works when I type 'beryl' too... :?:

by **byteframe** on Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:41 pm

Ok heres my summary of this stuff on latest slack/dlg with latest nvidia.

- Installation went well enough (had to pay close attention to the howto) got some errors(from nvidia installer, on first run), and binarys like xorgconfig werent in my path initially, but now everything (for some odd reason/after a few reboots and such) runs great, I dont notice any ill effects under normal operation, and it seems to 'run' and coexist on my system just like the old packs did. Daily chores seem faster too, but I have no possible numbers to back that up, but I wouldnt be suprised, it is 7.1.1 compared to .69.0.

- Symlinks 3 and 5 (I think) already existed.

- /usr/X11R6 (which is to be linked with R7 instead) still exists after removing the 6.9.0 packages. Its not very big, and I dont think *I* manually created anything in there, so that the package manager would neccessary not to erase /usr/X11R6. So I moved it to a backup location and linked R7 in its spot. Someone might wanna confirm/check this.

-xap2 packages worked fine, after I fiqured out what processes I needed to startup( thanks anyways smiley face). Its got some funky cool stuff (rain effect is nice), but its not for me/games at the moment. Uninstalled fine.

EDIT 1

x packs worked great on my thinkpad x40, however I get less frames in glxgears on the intel 855gm(i810 in xorg) i915 dri driver in kernel ||| and get those wierd "driver does not support visual @#$" errors. Direct rendering (IN THIS STATE) is however still functional.

- actually, your freetpye package does NOT include the BCI in there, that was totally my stupid fault, for not uninstalling a previous freetype2 package I had compiled with the BCI.

In fact, wine fonts (my main purpose of looking into the BCI for like a year now...) look fine either way (bci/vs/autohinter), so I think I can forget about all this crap, (zborgerd).

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Anyways, great job, (make sure you follow the howto as closely as you can!!!) with the new xorg, (and/or a regedit tweak, dont know which helped atall/most)I was able to make wine work much better, and can now play all steam games (source too) at full graphics (or at least as full as cedega did), blistering fast framerates. Fucking cedega wasnt even working, and I dont pay for it, and I hate their business model)

ps. evdev support? With this new xorg stuff I still have to (with Driver "mouse" in xorg) use xmodmap (and possible the buttons option in xorg.conf too) to get my extra mouse button to work. (ive never gotten the horizontal scrolling working). This is all on a G7.

Regardless, whats the word on evdev with this? I changed the driver to it, and xorg wouldnt start.
I'm looking at ...

http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiw ... X+Hardware

Is that howto/information still valid? I was always under the assumption evdev was the next big thing in input handling for X.

Thanks!

by **feinoM** on Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:12 pm

The tutorial and packages were excellent! I did have to do a couple of other things in addition, but it wasn't that hard to figure out

I posted my installation steps on my site if anyone is interested:
http://iloblog.fanget.org/feinom2?NewComment&post=5

by **wwwyzzerdd** on Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:04 pm

Thanks for the input! I'll go through my stuff and clean up the how-to's etc. when I get a chance.

A note on evdev - I'm a dumbass, and didn't notice that it didn't build evdev properly (at all) because of a kernel-headers issue.

I'm pretty sure I know what's wrong, and I've just cleaned up my scripts a little bit, so I'm going to be trying to build xorg-7.1.1-6www this week, with the goal of including Mesa 6.5.2 (keep your fingers crossed!).

However, 7.2 is right aroudn the corner, so if I run into too many problems, mesa 6.5.2 might have to wait.

For evdev, you can try building the "individual" package yourself for a temporary fix, but make sure to specify --prefix and a few other things. Check my source-build scripts for more details on configure options.

by **byteframe** on Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:39 pm

Hmm, I certainly wouldnt find it out of place for you to add a new package, ive been dieing to see how evdev works. Also does the new mesa contain any new features that would make it careful to watch before you rolled it up and sent it off to us?

by **miquest** on Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:46 am

Just wondering if the Tile plugin is in this latest release or is there a special way to add this to beryl?

by **ertz** on Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:56 pm

Found something odd with your X11 packages. I was trying to build Inkscape 0.45.0 pre3 last night and it said something about freetype's header being missing, and some .m4 too (like xtrans.m4, which should be in /usr/share/aclocal).

I had to install Dropline's freetype package in order to build Inkscape, but the missing .m4 files were solved with a couple symlinks

by **MacGyver** on Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:45 pm

http://sourceforge.net/projects/slackx/
Looks interesting...

by **wwwyzzerdd** on Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:56 pm

ertz: a few posts back I mentioned that I had screwed up the aclocal files... a few symlinks should do the trick, and I've fixed that problem in the packages I'm working on right now (I ran into problems as soon as I tried to compile something... can't remember what)

btw, I've gotten mesa 6.5.2 and libdrm 2.3.0 to build against the xorg-server-1.1.1 (had some problems with xorg-server 1.2.0, didnt' spend the time to troubleshoot it yet). I haven't tested the packages any more than just making sure x can start (so I haven't posted them yet)... but hopefully I find some time to get through all that stuff. I think there may have also been a beryl update - I'll investigate. Oh, and I think I managed to build evdev this time too

(if I dont' get my packs up, I'll make an evdev package... it should be easy to build on your own though...)

MacGyver: slackx looks interesting, have you tried it? my friend actually emailed me the same night you posted saying "hey check that out" - but I haven't done more than look at the project page...

I've had to throttle my web servers bandwidth a bit - it's being hosted on a cable modem, and my connection has been getting saturated.... I'm working on a more dynamic script (and finding some web-hosting), so please bear with me for now...

**edit** miquest - I think that feature might be part of the latest beryl release, which I don't think I've built yet. You can try out my beryl build scipts (and update the versions to latest) if you are really eager to try

Otherwise, check the beryl settings, and see if you can enable it...

by **liquidtenmillion** on Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:21 am

Just tried this out, it works beautifully here, thanks.

Pentium 3 800mhz
512MB Ram
Geforce FX 5200(128mb)
Gnome 2.16
Slackware 11
Kernel 2.6.18.2
Nvidia 9746

Looks great and runs full speed.

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